FK&P Some Setup Comparisons

Most of the folks that visit this blog are other wargamers.  They come by search engines, links from other wargaming sites and blogs and from wargame forums. A few are simply faithful friends, who are not gamers at all, but come by simply to offer encouragement. Supporting the home team so to speak. I am grateful for this. They don’t see the rest of the wargaming community that is out there so I wanted do a post to give an idea of how the other half lives.

One of the larger wargaming shows in the UK, Colours, was held over the past weekend and one of the demonstration games presented was Andrew Brentnall’s Lessie’s Moor, the same scenario I am currently working on using Andrew and Simon Miller’s soon to be released rules, For King & Parliament.  Andrew and Simon were both on hand and used part of Andrew’s 10mm ECW armies to stage the battle.  With permission I have a couple of pictures below provided by the Wargaming Addict who has a report on Colours and more photos of Lessie’s Moor at his blog.

The Battle of Lessie’s Moor at Colours 2017. The Royalist army is to the right

If I recall right Andrew uses a 15cm grid (to my 10cm) but then doubles the boxes to give a grid that has roughly 1′ squares. That would make the playing area in the above picture 8′ x 12′ which is pretty impressive.

This is the same view of the battlefield set up in my limited space version of Lessie’s Moor. The dark green line indicates that the ninth row of the battle mat is out of bounds to match Andrew’s 8 X 12 grid

After seeing the pictures from Colours, I realized that what I had interpreted as the manor house, Lower Loxley Hall, is actually the village of Loxley Barrett and it occupies two boxes not one. I have now made that change (above) on my board. Further study now shows I may need to make some small adjustments in the hedge lines as well. As previously mentioned, I have substituted wall for some of the hedges since from a rules standpoint there is no difference.

At Colours, looking from the Royalist side, the foot are about to engage in the center. Andrew’s foot battalions are massive and give a truer representation of the frontage of a musket & pike battalion. Several of the Royalist regiments are pike heavy and display an absolute forest of pikes!

Incidentally, Andrew has since reported that The Royalists won both of the games at Colours, the norm being a Parliamentarian victory (as was the result in my first outing with the scenario).

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A similar view in my set-up showing the foot in the Royalist center. To play in a 10cm grid, I have reduced my units from my standard Baroque 5″ (127mm) front to 3″ (76mm) for playing FK&P. One of my brigades (three battalions) equals one of Andrew’s battalions. Not nearly as impressive

When looking at my units I think of the scene in the movie, “Gladiator” where Maximus’ small, ragged group is huddled in the center of the vast Coliseum and being introduced as “The barbarian horde!” 😀   Still I’ve always been assured that size doesn’t matter.

The other thing I note is Andrew’s table looks more like moorland and the hedging is probably more correct for the period. Hedges, incidentally, are a fascinating subject and one that I have spent more time on than any normal person would. The whole subject of enclosures has at least a five hundred year history in the British Isles and was the trigger event for more than one popular uprising (another subject I am rather keen on). In the movie, “Cromwell”, there is even a brief vignette about breaking down an enclosure among the several used to signal the many complex grievances of the time.

My hedging is of the more fully realized and well maintained hedge rows of a later time, perhaps, famously, the Bocage of Normandy in World War Two

Sometimes you need to just go with the look you like!

 

 

12 thoughts on “FK&P Some Setup Comparisons

  1. Hi Bill,

    Thanks for posting these pictures, and for such an interesting discussion of the different ways of doing the scenario. Actually I have a confession to make! I wanted to use my best terrain for COLOURS, and to double the size of my units. My standard grid is 12.5cm, so this used 25cm, or 10inch squares. That led to a 10ft by 6ft (actually 70inches) table. So I was one square light in depth. That led to the changes you have noticed! As you say, however, go with the look you like! I went with a ‘moor’ look to match the name of the game. Loving the blog!

    Andrew

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  2. Thanks, Andrew
    The setup at Colours was impressive. I can’t say enough about the appearance of your M&P units – fantastic! Did you get your massive casualty markers into use?

    Knew you had doubled your dimension for the show but couldn’t remember your base block width. Thanks for clearing that up also. I like the double built-up area so I’ll stay with it now.

    I am enjoying your rules as well and they are proving to be great for solo play. Need to finish the repeat of Lessie’s Moor then I’ll get it posted up

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  3. Hedges, Bill- that’s a funny coincidence. I said to my chum Ian last week “what we need is an expert on ECW hedges”. 🙂 I am just contemplating the task of modelling them for my 28mm collection, I’ll drop you a line.

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  4. It is strange where the pursuit of wargaming leads – in this case to Agricultural Archeology! I have never pletched, coppiced or even planted a hedge, so I am hardly an expert! I’ll be happy to talk about it however! 😀 And share some source material.

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  5. Once again I’m impressed with the time spent to build the armies and the battlegrounds. I love the little villages and their surroundings and agree that having the look you like is a valid reason for some choices. Enjoy your hobby!

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